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Old 08-24-2007, 08:51 AM   #2701 (permalink)
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Delay in the 300/Charger/magnum SRT 6.1 ltr engine - now scheduled for 28 September. However, the Jeep GC SRT8 starts on 4th September...don't ask why.
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Quote: Originally Posted by hemidakota
Delay in the 300/Charger/magnum SRT 6.1 ltr engine - now scheduled for 28 September. However, the Jeep GC SRT8 starts on 4th September...don't ask why.

Jeep SRT8 started production July 16th, hundreds and hundreds have been built...
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It shows ESF code [6.1ltr] - silver color version has JOB ONE 4 Sept
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It shows ESF code [6.1ltr] - silver color version has JOB ONE 4 Sept

I see that, delay on just the silver models, interesting how something as "simple" as a long-used paint color causes production delays...
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Old 08-24-2007, 02:44 PM   #2705 (permalink)
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What's the delay on the LX 6.1's? It's the same 6.1L this year, correct? Having some component delays maybe?
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:03 PM   #2706 (permalink)
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Nothing changed for the engine what I can see from 07 to 08...though, I don't the engine since induction year.

Correction to the Magnum/Charger/300, it shows 10/05/07 delay with the SRT engine.

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Old 08-24-2007, 03:09 PM   #2707 (permalink)
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Chrysler is touting the advantages of a new steel technology (pictured) that lets it build vehicles that are safe, light, and fuel efficient. (Photo courtesy of Chrysler LLC)





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Chrysler's new lighter-weight steel is used in the 2008 Chrysler Sebring, which is 13 percent lighter overall. (Photo courtesy of Chrysler LLC)

INSIDELINE.COM - - | DETROIT — Chrysler said this week that it is managing to squeeze the best of both worlds out of new high-strength steel technologies: vehicles that are lighter and more fuel-efficient, but able to meet tough safety standards.

Chrysler, Daimler and the American Iron and Steel Institute made the joint announcement touting the success of a new project that uses "the latest advanced high-strength steels." Overall vehicle weight was cut by up to 13 percent compared to vehicles using conventional high-strength steels and design methods, Chrysler said. New engineering computer-modeling technology helps the companies determine where the material "best serves the structure." Resulting fuel savings are expected to be about 1 percent.

"Chrysler is continually developing improvements in safety and fuel economy, which are usually competing objectives," said Bill Grabowski, Chrysler director of body core engineering.

What this means to you: Your future Chrysler is likely to be more fuel-efficient, thanks to a combination of new materials and advanced design methods.

Hemi, where did you get that article? I can't find it on Insideline.com, but Detroit Free Press reports that the 13% is in the body structure savings only, not overall vehicle weight. Do you know which figure is correct?

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Old 08-24-2007, 03:12 PM   #2708 (permalink)
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...cleId=122310#2

Good question on the overall versus the platform. I have to wait for that one from an insider engineer who frequents this board.
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Here is the answer:

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"According to Bill Grabowskit, Engineering, it is the reduced vehicle's skeleton weight that is saved and not the overall vehicle [120 pounds can be saved - Sebring model was the mule]."

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Quote: Originally Posted by hemidakota
Here is the answer:

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"According to Bill Grabowskit, Engineering, it is the reduced vehicle's skeleton weight that is saved and not the overall vehicle [120 pounds can be saved - Sebring model was the mule]."


Well, good news regardless, 120lbs off any car is nice.

Frightening that the best example right now is the Sebring though... the 2006 Sebring base model was 3173lbs, and the redesigned "13% lighter" 2007 base model is 3287lbs.

BTW, do you guys realize that the Sebring convertible Limited, with the retractable hard top, weighs 3959lbs??? That's more than a 300 base, and only 200lbs less than my Charger SRT-8! I know it's a convertible, so not a fair comparison, but lbs are lbs, and that's a tubby bitch!

I am glad to see that they're taking steps to keep the weight in check as well as make stiffer/stronger/safer vehicles, but it seems like they somehow offset it with other stuff that packs on the pounds.
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The next move on the high-end super sports models is the composite skins mixtures.....
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Quote: Originally Posted by hemidakota
The next move on the high-end super sports models is the composite skins mixtures.....

I hear plurals there... more than just the viper hmm? =]

Shame that they'll never build the ME-412 though, Bugatti performance at 10% of the cost... =[
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I seen a few for sale now on eBay....the answer is yes.

are these from chrysler or just from independant companies?

Also, I can just find MyGIGs on ebay, but no adapters? Any key words you used to find the adapters? Thanks

You must have a specific head unit, there are several different types of "MyGIG" radios, running on different Bus systems, and amongst those, many different part numbers. On the enthusiast/aftermarket level, wiring harness adaptors and antenna adaptors have been made up.

So far, the units have only been tested in the Grand Cherokee and LX models, with slightly different results. Most functions have been made to work, including UConnect. Vehicles with the high end sound systems need a CAN control to operate the volume and EQ levels, a custom box is being designed for this. Work is progressing, slowly but surely. At this time it is not known how well the MyGIG will adapt to the PM/MK and other vehicles. With what is known so far, there is no reason why most functions will not work or be made able to work.

Last I checked, Mopar engineering was also working on adaptor kits to allow the installation of the MyGIG on vehicles with the 3rd gen radios (MyGIG is 4th gen). More information on this should be available before the year is out. One way or the other, via Mopar or aftermarket, most if not all installation issues should be solved for many '05/'06-up vehicles. It certainly is odd that all-new vehicles like the Caliber/Compass/Patriot are not offering MyGIG, especially since the vehicles are in typically marketed for a "younger" crowd. It possibly may have been a supply issue, since it is being made available on so many other vehicles this model year.

ok, good, i was hearing from other supposedly "in-the-know" ppl that they had abandoned the adapter project. Thanks for your help, i cant wait:
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The next move on the high-end super sports models is the composite skins mixtures.....

I hear plurals there... more than just the viper hmm? =]

Shame that they'll never build the ME-412 though, Bugatti performance at 10% of the cost... =[

Don't bet the farm on that last one... PM did mention something about a quad-turbo Phoenix V10...
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The next move on the high-end super sports models is the composite skins mixtures.....

I hear plurals there... more than just the viper hmm? =]

Shame that they'll never build the ME-412 though, Bugatti performance at 10% of the cost... =[

Don't bet the farm on that last one... PM did mention something about a quad-turbo Phoenix V10...

But that would make it an ME-410 =].

They really could use a serious Halo car, like the Ford GT, if only to shock the world and show that Chrysler knows how to build amazing vehicles. Then again, as good as the Ford GT was, I'm not sure it helped Ford's fortunes much...
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