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Old 07-02-2007, 02:50 PM   #1951 (permalink)
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The next Ram may get the Hybrid tranny

I thought that was a done deal. I don't know about the GC, though.
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IMO the Crossfire thing is either about finishing up some agreement with MB or about holding a place in the lineup for a successor model -- Firepower or whatever -- or maybe both.

Having driven a crossfire recently as a rental car, I have to say that I was fairly impressed. Underpowered, but overall a fun car to drive. I would be interested to see what chrysler could do to it with a new platform, but keeping the same basic premise.

I agree. I think the Crossfire needs to stay in the lineup. It's the only decent looking vehicle Chrysler has in it's lineup (other than the 300 & PT Cruiser). It only suffers from being overpriced (expensive MB bones). The SRT version needs at 400 hp (insert turbo'd Phoenix engine here). Keep the boat-tail for the new version and eliminate the fixed wing for the SRT (a larger deployable wing would be nice - maybe two, one on the rear and one on the aft end of the roof.)
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:27 PM   #1953 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by hemidakota
The next Ram may get the Hybrid tranny....along with the next GC longbody.

Nooooo. No longbody. Haven't they learned from GM's mistakes (LWB Trailblazer - what an odd looking beast)? They need a real Wagoneer.
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Old 07-03-2007, 06:10 AM   #1954 (permalink)
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The next Ram may get the Hybrid tranny....along with the next GC longbody.

Nooooo. No longbody. Haven't they learned from GM's mistakes (LWB Trailblazer - what an odd looking beast)? They need a real Wagoneer.

Mistake. They might as well keep the Commander instead of making a circus-mirror WK.
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IMO the Crossfire thing is either about finishing up some agreement with MB or about holding a place in the lineup for a successor model -- Firepower or whatever -- or maybe both.

Having driven a crossfire recently as a rental car, I have to say that I was fairly impressed. Underpowered, but overall a fun car to drive. I would be interested to see what chrysler could do to it with a new platform, but keeping the same basic premise.

I agree. I think the Crossfire needs to stay in the lineup. It's the only decent looking vehicle Chrysler has in it's lineup (other than the 300 & PT Cruiser). It only suffers from being overpriced (expensive MB bones). The SRT version needs at 400 hp (insert turbo'd Phoenix engine here). Keep the boat-tail for the new version and eliminate the fixed wing for the SRT (a larger deployable wing would be nice - maybe two, one on the rear and one on the aft end of the roof.)

The Crossfire should be put to rest. It has never sold very well, DCX had to auction off a few hundred new 2005 SRT 6 models this Febuary. (That is why there are soo many "Used" ones for sale right now with less than 1K miles in the mid 20s price wise. It just didn't hit the market well. It IS a nice looking car, but cramped inside, and many dealerships have had problems repairing them.
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The next Ram may get the Hybrid tranny

I thought that was a done deal. I don't know about the GC, though.

Sorry for the misuse of grammar ...it should read - 'will get.' The GC will also receive the same treatment when they change over the longer stretch version.
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so; if i'm reading this right -- the JGC is getting BIGGER? .. sheesh. I think they would've done better to do the diesel thing.. same with the v6 and maybe offer an i4 option in diesel as well [just not semi-hauler huge]
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Chrysler / Dodge Crew CUV Concept To Debut At Frankfurt Show

Chrysler Group is planning to unveil a concept version of its forthcoming mid-size CUV, better known in the US as the Chrysler and Dodge crossovers coded JC49 and JZ49 (pic above from AMS), at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September. How do we know? Well, according to an off-the-record conversation we had with a Chrysler Group Europe source of ours and even though this hasn’t been officially announced, it’s 99% certain that the American carmaker will debut the MPV/Crossover concept dubbed “Crew” at the German car Show. What our source couldn’t tell us is whether the Crew will wear a Dodge or Chrysler badge –though we’ve heard that the Crew nameplate will be used for the Dodge model. -Continued after the jump Smaller than the recently introduced Chrysler Town & Country or as Europeans know it, Voyager, the Crew will make use of the Chrysler Sebring / Dodge Avenger platform with production scheduled for January 2008 meaning that the production version will debut either at the L.A. Show in November or at NAIAS in January ’08.
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:24 AM   #1959 (permalink)
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so; if i'm reading this right -- the JGC is getting BIGGER? .. sheesh. I think they would've done better to do the diesel thing.. same with the v6 and maybe offer an i4 option in diesel as well [just not semi-hauler huge]

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More light on the iconic 2008 TK Wrangler...

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Quote: Originally Posted by murfman
Quote: Originally Posted by gnat turner
Quote: Originally Posted by srtdrew
Quote: Originally Posted by georgejetson
IMO the Crossfire thing is either about finishing up some agreement with MB or about holding a place in the lineup for a successor model -- Firepower or whatever -- or maybe both.

Having driven a crossfire recently as a rental car, I have to say that I was fairly impressed. Underpowered, but overall a fun car to drive. I would be interested to see what chrysler could do to it with a new platform, but keeping the same basic premise.

I agree. I think the Crossfire needs to stay in the lineup. It's the only decent looking vehicle Chrysler has in it's lineup (other than the 300 & PT Cruiser). It only suffers from being overpriced (expensive MB bones). The SRT version needs at 400 hp (insert turbo'd Phoenix engine here). Keep the boat-tail for the new version and eliminate the fixed wing for the SRT (a larger deployable wing would be nice - maybe two, one on the rear and one on the aft end of the roof.)

The Crossfire should be put to rest. It has never sold very well, DCX had to auction off a few hundred new 2005 SRT 6 models this Febuary. (That is why there are soo many "Used" ones for sale right now with less than 1K miles in the mid 20s price wise. It just didn't hit the market well. It IS a nice looking car, but cramped inside, and many dealerships have had problems repairing them.

Sold well in comparison to what?

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U.S. sales of premium sporty cars, first 5 months of 2007

Chevrolet Corvette: 14,703
Mercedes-Benz CLK: 7,038
Chrysler Crossfire: 4,544
BMW Z4: 3,742
Mercedes-Benz SLK: 3,646
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2004's with low mileage are selling between $14k-$16k depending on options. IMO probably one of the best used car bargains out there if that's the type of car you're looking for.

Agreed that fixed wing looks ugly, the retractable is the way to go and much cooler to boot.
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they overbuilt the crossfire, by a TON. i remember when it was winter we still had a lot of crossfires sitting on the lot of the dealership. not smart. thats the big 3's biggest problem, overbuilding.
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Quote: Originally Posted by StndIbnz
they overbuilt the crossfire, by a TON. i remember when it was winter we still had a lot of crossfires sitting on the lot of the dealership. not smart. thats the big 3's biggest problem, overbuilding.

Naah, their biggest problem is that they don't sell enough vehicles. :P
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Quote: Originally Posted by hemidakota
Quote: Originally Posted by suzq044
so; if i'm reading this right -- the JGC is getting BIGGER? .. sheesh. I think they would've done better to do the diesel thing.. same with the v6 and maybe offer an i4 option in diesel as well [just not semi-hauler huge]

Replaces the Commander

If I understand it correctly, there will be an extended version, like the Trailblazer.

Either way, it's a mistake - more so if they simply stretch the current grand and offer only that one.
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