With a FWD? Then yes but reviews are not done over night with changes being implemented [Let us hope for a AWD unit].
I know, I work for the DoD and reviews take time - [example] smart [sniper] bullet was my 'suggestion' in 2000 and it was pushed back in 2005. Five years and someone else takes the credit - namely the Army. LOL
Trail Rated already exists. No matter what it's called, it could be "Jeeps for Queers"; if it's designed to go off road, it had better feature a taller suspension and larger tires.
A KJ Renegade revisited is a waste of time. If it's not like the Rubicon, it's pointless.
To answer someone else's question, a V10 would be less than ideal offroad. The 5.7L is more than adequate in a WK GC offroad, so unless the V10 is lighter, it's just hurting.
Engine power hardly has anything to do with off road capability, there is no way a V10 is getting anywhere near a Jeep. When driving off road, gearing and traction are what matters.
i.e. a 4 cyl Jeep can go where most cant...
Tell that to the guys at Glamis, Silver Lake, Pismo etc.. (not to mention MUD) There IS a place for HP off road. I find my 4.0 marginal at best with a 5 speed 35" tires AND 4.88 gears. A V-10 is by no means necessary, but its nice to have even if never needed.
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Trail Rated already exists. No matter what it's called, it could be "Jeeps for Queers"; if it's designed to go off road, it had better feature a taller suspension and larger tires.
A KJ Renegade revisited is a waste of time. If it's not like the Rubicon, it's pointless.
To answer someone else's question, a V10 would be less than ideal offroad. The 5.7L is more than adequate in a WK GC offroad, so unless the V10 is lighter, it's just hurting.
I agree, but all the features you listed (and I fantsize about) would kill the CAFE. Damn Government getting in the way of my fun...
Engine power hardly has anything to do with off road capability, there is no way a V10 is getting anywhere near a Jeep. When driving off road, gearing and traction are what matters.
i.e. a 4 cyl Jeep can go where most cant...
Yes, gearing is very important. Personally, being a modded Jeep owner and posting on/reading all of the largest Jeep forums, something like OTT, TRT or anything like SRT might be poorly received. In basic, for any Jeep sponsored off road package to work, it has to give a "Rubicon" treatment to any included vehicle. Something half-assed like the KJ Liberty Renegade will not endear the off road community to them.
Damn near all of them think stock Jeeps should just come with larger tires. Look at most comparable offerings from Japan, and you'll see factory stock 31s, something you still can't find on anything other than a Rubicon Wrangler.
If Jeep really wants to satisfy the off road crowd, they need to have any package include a suspension lift (ala Rubicon) and larger tires; at least 31s.
Also, they should look into mimicking items like flat belly pans for TJs, or TNTCustoms' belly pan for XJs. Skid plates are all well and good, but if shit hangs below them, or they act like shovels; they basically do as much harm as good. I know people that have managed to get stuck solely because of how low a stock TJ skid hangs.
If they throw on larger tires, they had better overgear the diffs. At least 4.10s, something closer to 4.56s would probably be necessary. While we're in the diff, some sort of locking mechanism has to be included, look to the Rubicon for that.
Also, a low low-range. The 4:1 Rocktrac is great for, well, rock crawling, but a 3.73:1 (which is supposed to be coming as a JK option) is a nice alternative. 2.72:1 is pretty weak.
Oh yeah, no bullshit like offering the off road package with only a CVT or any other eccentric options/drivetrain features. The AW4 was the best thing Jeep ever had, though the TC has too high of a stall.
I agree, but all the features you listed (and I fantsize about) would kill the CAFE. Damn Government getting in the way of my fun...
Would it be better received by Camp Jeep if the vehicle had a CRD version seeing the torque factor is much greater and was designed primarily for off-roading?
Cerberus joins group of financial investors to bid for Jaguar and Land Rover
AUTOBLOG.COM | Posted Jun 14th 2007 3:35PM by John Neff
While poring over the RSS feeds today, we noticed a tiny article in Automotive News about Ford's desire to sell off both Jaguar and Land Rover. The potential sale has been in the news as of late, but this article caught our eye because it reveals a potential bidder with which we're all familiar. According to Automotive News, three private equity groups including Blackston, Cinven and... Cerberus (!) have shown interest in joining the auction for two of Ford's Premiere Auto Group brands. Cerberus, of course, is the same private equity group involved in the purchase of Chrysler from DaimlerChrysler.
While the news that Cerberus has thrown its hat in the ring for the purchase of Jaguar and Land Rover is not necessarily surprising (this is what private equity firms do, they buy stuff), the thought of a new American automaker housing the Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep brands along with both Jaguar and Land Rover certainly changes the landscape of the domestic auto industry in the near future. While Land Rover isn't in near as dire a straits as Jaguar, neither brand are performing at their peak potential. Unfortunately, neither is any Chrysler Group brand. Cerberus must really believe it has the magic touch to be getting involved with so many down but not out automakers.
I agree, but all the features you listed (and I fantsize about) would kill the CAFE. Damn Government getting in the way of my fun...
That's so very true, but then again the SRT vehicles aren't exactly known for their fuel economy. Hopefully it could be made to work. At the very least, an off road package from Jeep has to include larger tires and a suspension properly cleared for them.
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Would it be better received by Camp Jeep if the vehicle had a CRD version seeing the torque factor is much greater and was designed primarily for off-roading?
A diesel would be very well-received if dropped in the right vehicle. The Silver SkunkWerks JK Unlimited with the 3.0L BlueTec was drooled over by many.
.. i dunno.. thats a toss-up. -- but odds are its BS.
I'm sure it's not BS. I'm sure that Cerberus, as the leading private equity firm operating in the auto space, has expressed interest in exploring the opportunity. Whether they'll prevail, and how/if Jag and LR would be folded together with The Chrysler Corporation, are different questions. But I'm sure they want to be invited to the meeting, and I'm sure they'll be welcomed.
Oh crap.
The 2 greatest offroad marques under one roof. With ChryCorp having a controlling interest I'm sure there will be no glass ceiling situation as in the last marriage. Technology sharing between Jeep & Rover. Rover & Jag could really use help in the powerplant department. Jaguar offers expertise in use of aluminum. I think it'll work.
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