Article written about CSRT from former NSRT stage 3 owner

[ZetecInside]

Quote: Originally Posted by WTF

Common sense tells you I went through your pathetic site to come up with the conclusion that your website is a joke and you know absolutely nothing about cars. Captain Obvious.

Seriously? You read the whole website? Thanks for spending time with us. Did you find anything on the site which might have influenced your future purchase decisions? If so, please let us know so we can tune the site to serve you better.

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I wouldn't consider anybody driving second hand Jettas...oops I mean Phaetons baller.

Dude, that's totally not cool. Our Phaeton community is supportive of "pre-loved" Phaeton owners, and while I happened to take delivery of both of mine when they were new, I certainly wouldn't think any less of the person who buys them from me.

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The Phaeton was such a a crapbox nobody wanted them, I mean to pay upwards of 50 grand for a giant Jetta with some chrome? Not even the most hardcore VW fanboy would buy them, hence thats why they are unloaded onto the market with the most pathetic resell value. You can pick them up for around the same price has a loaded Civic now. Any chump with a minimum wage job could rock one....or two.

If you happen to come across any of these loaded-Civic Phaetons now in good shape, would you PM me the details? I'd kind of like to add a 2004 W12 Premiere Edition to the collection. They were kind of neat cars. I'm also looking for 2005 "four-seaters" in Campanella White. So if you happen to come across any, you know what to do.

It's funny you mention minimum-wage work. Oh, man, I worked so many of those "chump" jobs! I worked for Arby's, for Wendy's, for a local pizza place. My first job paid $2.45 an hour; I earned less than minimum wage because I was only 14, which was too young to work after 8pm back then, and I had to work cheap to get them to look the other way on that.

I'm happy to say that after a few years of those "chump" jobs I managed to find my own way to a decent living, just enough to support my shoe habit and my racing time. I'm not sure there's any such thing as a "chump" job in the long run. Like Randal says in Clerks II, "It's all building up to something."

Well, I definitely won't try to sell you either one of my Phaetons when I'm done with 'em, because it sounds like you're rocking a better set of wheels than a couple of cars which probably aren't worth more than $45K each retail now. Maybe you'd like to buy something else out of the collection. A 911? Boxster S? CL 55 AMG? Any of that pique your interest? I'm always around to make a deal!

[Krac_Hed]

Thanks for the entertaining thread!!

I must say Jack, you have quite the witty comebacks

[blacksin]

LOL, yea Jack ownz. Isn't the Phaeton related more to the Passat than the Jetta? It also has the longest wheelbase out of all the VW cars.. just interesting that someone would race them.

[ZetecInside]

The Phaeton is actually a platform twin to the Bentley Continental GT and Flying Spur; I visited the Dresden factory in 2006 and watched them make the Phaeton and Spur side-by-side. I tried to help, citing my experience sweeping floors at the Honda plant, but they weren't interested.

I have a Bentley "piano black" steering wheel and CGT paddle shifters in my Phaeton; a quick VAG-COM recode and they worked just fine. You can even swap the Bentley dashboard in, although that takes more than an hour or two!

For the record, I do *not* race the Phaetons; I run them on open lapping days and have also run my black Phaeton in SCCA F Stock autocross, where it has yet to finish dead last

It's at this point that I kind of want to use that little jester fellow. It looks cool when that WTF kid does it, like there's a joke on which I am not in. So I'm going to try using it below:

Hey, er, I have a lot of money.

How'd that look?

[boostdog]

is it just me or is one of the best threads in this section in along time.

ahhh sitting in to see the results -


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I found this updated pic - click for larger image




looks like the sti has the best line over the neon...and someone is falling out of the neon..wth!

LOL! sry i couldn't resist.

[sti_zee]

that might be the worst photoshopping i've ever seen (it did make me chuckle, though)

[1LAPSRT]

Quote: Originally Posted by sti_zee

that might be the worst photoshopping i've ever seen (it did make me chuckle, though)

It's a bit funny, but I think the only "line" that is good for is if you are really trying to make the photographer shit his pants!

[boostdog]

Quote: Originally Posted by sti_zee

that might be the worst photoshopping i've ever seen (it did make me chuckle, though)

photoshop???? shoot that's paint mang! lol...ya i fig i'd throw down some of my skills.

[IBLIS]

this thread still hasn't let me down yet not that I'm adding anything to the discussion, but it's made for an entertaining read none the less.

[ZetecInside]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1LAPSRT

It's a bit funny, but I think the only "line" that is good for is if you are really trying to make the photographer shit his pants!

Which reminds me...

My brother's a pretty decent autocrosser who has finished in the top half of a bunch of Nationals and recently trophied at the Atlanta National Tour. He asked to drive my Boxster at a regional because he was waiting for some tires for his car, and I agreed. On the first run he completely put the car past the sensible limit and ran sideways out of the slalom towards the corner workers and the course photographer. They all ran out of the way, but not before the ballsy photographer took this:

[1LAPSRT]

Yup...shagging cones at an auto-x can be an INTERESTING experience!

[NeonDan]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZetecInside

The Phaeton is actually a platform twin to the Bentley Continental GT and Flying Spur; I visited the Dresden factory in 2006 and watched them make the Phaeton and Spur side-by-side. I tried to help, citing my experience sweeping floors at the Honda plant, but they weren't interested.

you forgot to add that while they may share bits with the bentleys that the Phaeton is basically a watered down Audi A8. While i wont argue that you did see some assembly work for the Bentleys...your statement is almost not true

Quote: Originally Posted by VW Media

The Transparent Factory in Dresden, Germany assembles the Phaeton. Some of the assembly work for the Bentley Continental Flying Spur (otherwise built in Crewe, UK) was added in mid-2005 to support the model start-up in Crewe. This support was terminated as planned at the end of 2006.

Not trying to get into a debate with ya was just trying to clarify some misinformation i saw.

[ZetecInside]

Quote: Originally Posted by NeonDan

you forgot to add that while they may share bits with the bentleys that the Phaeton is basically a watered down Audi A8. While i wont argue that you did see some assembly work for the Bentleys...your statement is almost not true

Normally I don't quote Wikipedia, but in this case I believe the information was contributed by Michael Moore. No, not that Michael Moore, but the fellow who is the NAR "Phaeton Guy" and who has been our liaison with Dresden for the past four years...

"The Phaeton's platform, the Volkswagen Group D1 platform, is shared with the Bentley Continental GT and Bentley Continental Flying Spur. Certain systems such as the transmission and some engines are also shared with the Audi A8. The D1 is a standalone platform, and was specifically developed for the Phaeton and Bentley under code name VW611. It is commonly mistaken with Audi's D3 platform, which is aluminium-based instead of the D1's steel platform."

I had a D3 Audi A8 as a company car for a while - they are completely different cars. Different wheelbase, dashboard, engine location vis-a-vis the front axle, and so on - while a Bentley is far closer. As noted before, the "hard points" on the Phaeton and Bentley are identical, to the point that you can retrofit a variety of Bentley equipment into the Phaeton. Can't do that with the A8. You can also literally lift the twin-turbo out of a CGT and drop it into a Phaeton, as Ferdinand Piech did three years ago. I'd kind of like to do it myself, but that's got to be the warranty-voider of all time.

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Not trying to get into a debate with ya was just trying to clarify some misinformation i saw.

No, I appreciate it. I was not aware that Flying Spur production at Dresden had been completed. I'm frankly surprised, because although the Phaeton has done pretty well in the world market I figured the factory would want to keep the Spur to make up for the lost NAR Phaeton sales.

Those of you who are interested in how a Bentley compares to the Phaeton - even though that's a pretty far stretch from SRT, ain't it? - are invited to read my quick review of the Bentley GT "Speed" Edition:

Speed:Sport:Life Dubspeed Driven Quick Look - Bentley Continental GT Speed - Ice Sculptures and eye candy help to pimp a very polished Phaeton

Random photo of one of mine:

[NeonDan]

A little VW trivia

The Volkswagen Auto Group consists of Volkswagen, Audi AG (Audi , AL S.p.a and Quattro), SEAT, SA , Škoda Auto , Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A. (part of Audi AG), Bentley Motors Limited, and Bugatti Automobile SAS aswell as Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles along with a controlling stake (68.9%) in Scania AB and a 29.9% stake in MAN AG. Inturn Porsche AG has a 51% stake in VW but formally announced in a press statement that it did not intend to take over Volkswagen, setting its offer price at the lowest possible legal value, but intended the move to avoid a competitor taking a large stake, or to stop hedge funds dismantling VW, which is Porsche's most important partner. For those who dont know the lineage of the Volkswagen Phaeton, it rides on a variation of VW Auto Group's D platform. The D platform is the company's large vehicle platform that is used for luxury automobiles by the Volkswagen, Audi and Bentley brands. The D platform has several variations/varaints since 1988 to present, the current A8/S8 rides on the D2 platform while the Volkswagen Phaeton , Bentley Continental GT and Bentley Continental Flying Spur ride on the D3 platform share some components with the D2 platform, but employ steel bodyshell construction.

*had to edit a typo*

[NeonDan]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZetecInside

Normally I don't quote Wikipedia, but in this case I believe the information was contributed by Michael Moore. No, not that Michael Moore, but the fellow who is the NAR "Phaeton Guy" and who has been our liaison with Dresden for the past four years...

not a huge fan of wickepedia myself thats why i quoted VW themselves and while you posted your reply is making a little FYI post for those who dunno about the Phaeton or VW for that matter

Quote: Originally Posted by with regards to Bentley's newfound demand since VW ownership

.....Demand had been so great that the factory at Crewe, Cheshire, was unable to meet orders despite an installed capacity of approximately 9500 vehicles per year. There was a waiting list of over a year for new cars to be delivered. Consequently, production of the new Flying Spur, a four-door version of the Continental GT, was assigned to the Transparent Factory, where the VW Phaeton luxury car is also assembled. This arrangement ceased at the end of 2006, and all car production reverted to the Crewe plant.