Looks like I opened up a can of worms. I don't think the article is very good. The title should say "My fun day at the track driving all of these different cars". The word test and comparing vehicles against each other in different classes really doesn't make sense.
Yep, stock max boost for a CSRT-4 is 10 psi... bigger S3 turbo, less psi to make powah.. haha how else could a S3 turbo equipped car only pull off a 14 second 1/4 mile?
1) WOW... at least you can admit how stupid you were and that you actually fell out of your own car! HELL YES it was roped off....however appearently when you only rope off 97% of the area surrounding a freshly paved lot, some nimrod will find that 3% and think of it as their personal entrance to an obviously reserved area just waiting for them to lay down some fresh donuts "tatoos".
2) Yes... I time trial, and if you care to join me out there I would be more than happy to show you how that is done. I'd be willing to bet that it would take more than your borrowed SRT-10 Viper to show me the way around a track. I never represent myself as a "racer" so you are not informing anyone of anything they don't already know.
3) Funny...I don't remember seeing your boyfriends name on any of the threats about suing Dale for the footage of your brilliant driving ability, they all came directly from you. "I am right next door to the biggest law firm in Canada and they will be all over you as soon as I say "Go". (Paraphased, but along the right line).
As far as your racing ability, by the looks of that picture, you are about to get smoked by the spec miatas. At least your inability to follow the racing line (it looks to be about 9 feet to the drivers right of your car, btw) should allow them plenty of room to move past without you slowing them down.
Thanks for stopping by Jack! Now go play with all you internet millionaire friends with their/your/your wife's uncle's Ferrari.
I almost forgot Jack....Tell us all about your SRT-4 you mentioned in the article! Or was that more internet fibbing?
"My confidence was based on my experiences as an owner of a Stage 3 Dodge SRT-4 Neon and my current situation as the owner and racer of a first-gen Neon ACR"
Well, Douglas, a couple of thoughts off the top.
One, you’re really tough on the Internet, much tougher than a hardcore time trialer should be.
Two, you need to get your facts straight.
Now, on to the points at hand…
1) The area wasn’t roped off.
2) How much are you willing to bet that you can show Mr. Baruth around a track? Cash amount or pink slip? You can name the track.
(this is the part where we see whether you’re just tough on the Internet or whether you can carry that same swagger into real life)
3) That was me. In fact, I use the best law firm, which also happens to be largest law firm on the planet, for all my corporate and personal legal requirements. I believe there is an invoice somewhere attached to the investigation of the action I considered. Also, I would caution you to avoid references to my sexuality; it’s childish and petty, really, and only makes you look like you have deep-seated sexual identity issues.
As for Mr. Baruth’s ownership of an SRT-4, well, I drove it on a few occasions, including at Mid-Ohio. Yes, it was a real car and I remember it to be a tasteful piece—black, with the KW suspension, OZ Ultraleggeras and more power (I certainly don’t recall which “Stage”). It’s since been replaced by a large German sedan and a couple of small German sports cars. I’m sure Mr. Baruth has some photos of the ol’ SRT-4 somewhere, just for your satisfaction.
1) Funny....now even his "friend" (is that better) is signing up just to refute what everyone in the 2006 One Lap (at least those that made it to day 7) knows to be true!
2) He can borrow a Viper and come see me anytime he wants! (No '08 ACR's though....they would probably even make Jack look good).
3) Ahhh... I see that you are in fact the Canadian of the group...Eh! So Jack was relaying your lawsuit threats! Too funny that you got a bill for his "stupidity"...I mean excellent display of driving prowess!
I know he owned an SRT-4 and it has since been replaced by some uber-car (Jack IS a baller you know), but it was not the car he claimed in his interwebz article!
So in an article poking fun at those who embellish on the internet, he falls into the very trap that he ridicules and "fibs" about his ownership of a STAGE 3 NSRT-4.
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1) Funny....now even his "friend" (is that better) is signing up just to refute what everyone in the 2006 One Lap (at least those that made it to day 7) knows to be true!
2) He can borrow a Viper and come see me anytime he wants! (No '08 ACR's though....they would probably even make Jack look good).
3) Ahhh... I see that you are in fact the Canadian of the group...Eh! So Jack was relaying your lawsuit threats! Too funny that you got a bill for his "stupidity"...I mean excellent display of driving prowess!
I know he owned an SRT-4 and it has since been replaced by some uber-car (Jack IS a baller you know), but it was not the car he claimed in his interwebz article!
So in an article poking fun at those who embellish on the internet, he falls into the very trap that he ridicules and "fibs" about his ownership of a STAGE 3 NSRT-4.
You know, Douglas, you can believe in something as much as you like, but it doesn't make it true; the lot was still not roped off and the lawsuit was my idea. Sometimes legal action is a great way to deal with an issue.
No doubt you're a baller on this forum--you know, hardcore time trialer and all--but I'm willing to facilitate this uber-driver showdown. Let's make it fair and do it time trial style, yo:
- you name the track
- you select the car
- I'll buy the track time
- I'll pay for third-party, electronic timing
- I'll bring along my videographer for posterity
Sounds like a perfectly fair way to put your money where your mouth is.
You know, Douglas, you can believe in something as much as you like, but it doesn't make it true; the lot was still not roped off and the lawsuit was my idea. Sometimes legal action is a great way to deal with an issue.
No doubt you're a baller on this forum--you know, hardcore time trialer and all--but I'm willing to facilitate this uber-driver showdown. Let's make it fair and do it time trial style, yo:
- you name the track
- you select the car
- I'll buy the track time
- I'll pay for third-party, electronic timing
- I'll bring along my videographer for posterity
Sounds like a perfectly fair way to put your money where your mouth is.
What are the stakes, big guy?
- How about VIR-Full?
- I'll drive my car...he can bring something else, because anyone who falls out of their "own" moving car in a parking lot sure as hell isn't going to get behind the wheel of anything I own!
- OK
- OK
- OK
A thousand bucks to drive six hundred miles each way? Let's raise the stakes a bit. Let's say that the loser:
* Quits SRTForums. Note that I have more to lose here; I've been a member for nearly five years.
* Agrees to never run One Lap of America again.
As far as using your car, that's a copout. Let me offer you another option, one you would be wise to choose: We'll find a NASA or Koni team willing to rent us their car for the day, we will split the rental fee, and we'll drive the same unknown car under equal circumstances. I'm thinking an AI Mustang, which can be had for about $3K a day, or something similar. Let's make it a driver's race. It's bad enough I have to drive all the way south so you can run on home ground.
Frankly, I wish I knew what your problem was. You've been trying to get my attention for more than two years now. I don't know how to tell you this, but you're the only person left who has any issue regarding our class win in 2006. Brock doesn't care. Brock Jr. doesn't care. Nobody at Road America cares - we'll be back racing there this year. Dale doesn't care.
The only person left who cares is you, and I can't figure out why. You weren't involved in any aspect of the "situation", you aren't a team member of anybody involved, and you aren't even a racer. Everybody has moved on and shaken hands, with the exception of goofy ol' Douglas Wind, who wasn't even a player in the original deal. It's kind of pathetic. You're like the ugly girl in high school who walks in on a clique laughing about something and laughs right along even though she doesn't know the joke. Then everybody stops laughing, but she doesn't know if she should or not.
My advice to you would be to focus on your own driving career and stop worrying about what other people are doing. The word I've used to describe you in previous posts is "wannabe", and I think it applies. Other people are out racing, working with manufacturers, building teams, winning races (or losing 'em) and in general progressing. What are you doing? Not much. And now you think you can become famous by running against me in a time trial? If it makes you happy. Brian will sort out the details and come up with a contract for you to sign.
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A thousand bucks to drive six hundred miles each way? Let's raise the stakes a bit. Let's say that the loser:
* Quits SRTForums. Note that I have more to lose here; I've been a member for nearly five years.
* Agrees to never run One Lap of America again.
As far as using your car, that's a copout. Let me offer you another option, one you would be wise to choose: We'll find a NASA or Koni team willing to rent us their car for the day, we will split the rental fee, and we'll drive the same unknown car under equal circumstances. I'm thinking an AI Mustang, which can be had for about $3K a day, or something similar. Let's make it a driver's race. It's bad enough I have to drive all the way south so you can run on home ground.
Frankly, I wish I knew what your problem was. You've been trying to get my attention for more than two years now. I don't know how to tell you this, but you're the only person left who has any issue regarding our class win in 2006. Brock doesn't care. Brock Jr. doesn't care. Nobody at Road America cares - we'll be back racing there this year. Dale doesn't care.
The only person left who cares is you, and I can't figure out why. You weren't involved in any aspect of the "situation", you aren't a team member of anybody involved, and you aren't even a racer. Everybody has moved on and shaken hands, with the exception of goofy ol' Douglas Wind, who wasn't even a player in the original deal. It's kind of pathetic. You're like the ugly girl in high school who walks in on a clique laughing about something and laughs right along even though she doesn't know the joke. Then everybody stops laughing, but she doesn't know if she should or not.
My advice to you would be to focus on your own driving career and stop worrying about what other people are doing. The word I've used to describe you in previous posts is "wannabe", and I think it applies. Other people are out racing, working with manufacturers, building teams, winning races (or losing 'em) and in general progressing. What are you doing? Not much. And now you think you can become famous by running against me in a time trial? If it makes you happy. Brian will sort out the details and come up with a contract for you to sign.
Your buddy is the one who said "I pick the track". I picked VIR and immediately you are upset with my choice. He said "I pick the car" and you don't like that. He said he would cover the costs...well OK! He asked me "what the stakes were" and I said I would put up a grand.
Well we could run at one of the excellent tracks that are available half way between us in either Tennessee or Kentucky! Oh wait....there are no tracks there.
I picked VIR since it is the closest Southern track to you and I actually have only 1 track day on full course (on street tires) other than One Lap, so that should be fair enough. If I wanted Home Track Advantage I would have said CMP, RRR or Road Atlanta, all of which are much closer to me than VIR, and I have driven them a LOT more.
Yeah...your "nearly five years" and 122 posts mean you would be losing a lot...You hadn't posted in almost two years until someone told you that I brought up your mad tite skillz in this thread.
You have nothing to lose with backing out of One Lap either as even when you were entered in One Lap you weren't competitive and your "CLASS WIN" which no one has an issue with is meaningless because you didn't beat anyone! You were the only car in your class! No wonder nobody cares...including me since I only looked up that information today. All I knew about you was your stupid donut manuever and your threats about a lawsuit.
Yeah...lets rent someone else race car....since I run a FWD car I think I'll pass on the AI rental. I never claimed to be an accomplished racer and I freely admit I have little experience in anything other than my SRT-4, nor have I ever claimed to. So if you want to talk shit about me being a lowly wannabe time trialer, I say step up and beat me at my game.
As far as my career goes, I have no intentions of becoming a famous race car driver like yourself, I run TT for fun and I enjoy winning more than my fair share of events against those in NASA's TTS Time Trials Group as well as One Lap, that's all. If you aren't familiar with the type of cars in that group, I will enlighten you. Mostly C5 & C6 Z-06's, Porsche 996 & 997 GT3's a mixture of supercharged Mustangs and the occasional highly-prepped Panoz or Brunton Super Stalker. Off the top of my head, I would estimate that I have won over 50% of my events (typically 4-7 other cars depending on the track) and all in my little under-prepared FWD shoebox.
Oh yeah...in case you missed it I did win my class (over 10 other cars) and finish in the TOP 5 in the 2007 One Lap. We would have easily won again this year, but a minor mechanical issue, which caused a single DNF, put us down by 15 class points in the end, and we still finished Top 15, have you ever done that in One Lap? I didn't think so, but since TT events are beneath you...I guess OLA doesn't matter either.
Off track my priorities are much higher. I have two awesome little kids and a beautiful wife whom I love to spend as much time with as possible, so your pitiful attempts to belittle my focus are worthless and trying to bait me into become "a racer" like you carries less than ZERO weight.
I have no problem with you. I didn't search you out trying to pick a fight, I simply smelled something shitty, pointed at it and laughed!
Maybe I missed it....did you tell us all about your Stage 3 SRT-4 that you owned previously????
Edited because my temper isn't bringing anything to discussion.
Douglas, you're wasting my time, you're wasting the time of the SRTForums readers, and your obsession with me is ruining the users' chance to discuss the article. As far as my SRT-4 goes, use the search button; I sold it to one SRTF member and sold the Mopar/MannyZ/Hotchkis stuff to another one. The car was at the One Lap party in 2005.
If you want to run heads-up in an equal car, FWD or RWD, I'm game. Brian will contact you.
I'd like to apologize to the SRTForums members who had to sit through this. I'm a Mopar racer and I value your time, as well as the time you took to read the article. Douglas and I will settle our differences privately and if that includes a little race, I'll make sure everybody has the details.
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I will say that I have enjoyed following Doug's run for the last couple of years (and Dale's before that). I always tell the people I work with about all the cars that the lowly Neon is ahead of.
Yea definitely not wasting my time. Personally I think that maybe it's the "I'm gonna be the better man" situaton because this thread is listed prominently in the comments of the article.... C'mon, let's get that heat going again.
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I never represent myself as a "racer" so you are not informing anyone of anything they don't already know. 
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