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Old 06-25-2008, 12:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Speed:Sport:Life Speed:Sport:Life Imaginary Internet Millionaire Track Test: Ferrari F430 v Lotus Elise v Dodge Caliber SRT-4 v Ford Mustang GT500
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Yeah. Not exactly apples to apples.
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hmmm.....

Doesn't his name ring a bell?

I know you never met him, but this is the dip-wad who was thrown out of Road America during the 2006 One Lap of America for doing donuts on their brand new (as in one day old) roped-off parking lot beside the paddock area. He almost did a "Hey Yall watch this" too when he opened his door and almost fell out in the middle of his donuts!
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I just really enjoyed the bashing of the caliber and the praise of the neon.
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Doesn't his name ring a bell?

I know you never met him, but this is the dip-wad who was thrown out of Road America during the 2006 One Lap of America for doing donuts on their brand new (as in one day old) roped-off parking lot beside the paddock area. He almost did a "Hey Yall watch this" too when he opened his door and almost fell out in the middle of his donuts!


i was just bout to google his name then i saw this reply and was like ahhhhh
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I liked the article on the R8 vs. the Viper, with the Viper spanking the bejeesus out of the R8, and everything else on the road.

Viper > R8 > F430
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I just really enjoyed the bashing of the caliber and the praise of the neon.

He has bashed the Neon in a OLA thread before. I think his comprehension of their ability comes from us kicking his (Mercedes driving) ass in One Lap!
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i was just bout to google his name then i saw this reply and was like ahhhhh

Yeah...then he was threatening to sue Dale if he didn't turn over the video of his brilliant driving abilities.... Of course Dale was more than happy to.....



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So... they're comparing a Caliber SRT-4, Ferrari F430, Lotus Elise, and a Ford Mustang GT500... and somehow.. the Ferrari winds up in third place and the Mustang in first... and someone even allowed them to bring a Caliber SRT-4 into the same state as the other three cars?

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Why the hell would you compar a NSRT4 to a Ferarri,a Lotus and a GT500?
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Hey everybody,

Thanks for reading the article. Obviously it's a pretty wacky comparison, but our rationale for doing it is pretty well-documented within the article itself.

A couple of brief clarifications regarding Douglas Wind's comments:

1) I wasn't "almost" thrown from the Mercedes during the open-door donuts, I WAS thrown from the Benz! I had this idea that we would do some fun donuts in an empty area. (Was it roped off? I guess I magically jumped a 4300-pound diesel Mercedes over the rope!) Luckily I still had a hand on the A-pillar so I could pull myself back into the moving car and knock off a couple more of said donuts. Naturally, I closed the door for those, because you don't have to tell me twice.

2) Bash the Neon? I race a Neon! You see, Douglas does what they call "time trial" in NASA. It's a lot of fun, but it isn't racing. Some day Doug will be ready to race for real, and then I'll be delighted to help him as a fellow Neon owner. Until then, I'll have to continue to think of him as a smack-talking wannabe.

3) For the record, my co-driver was the guy who wanted to sue Dale. I'm happy to report that I had the chance to chat with Dale at the Atlanta Pro Tour last month and any drama between us is long since settled. Why Doug ever got involved in this whole thing is beyond me. As previously noted, he's kind of a wannabe who has only seen actual checkered flags on television. If I have any issues with Dale, I'll talk to Dale directly, not to his internet leghumper.

Again, thanks to everybody for reading. We'll be discussing our Caliber comments with Chrysler personnel in the near future. I'm a big fan of Mopar products - not only did we love the SRT-10 when we drove it back in March, I spend a lot of my time every week working on a Neon. Here she is:



Doug, if you ever want to see what it's like to actually race, as opposed to sit on your ass and babble - I invite you to build your own Neon and race it. Thanks!



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I like seeing it ahead of 2 miatas. lol
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By the third lap of every session, the little AutoMeter boost gauge can’t break the ten-psi mark, a real shock to those of us who remember the old “Stage” Neons cheerfully pegging it at 22 or higher, even under race conditions. Part of this is probably the fault of the new “World Engine”. The Mopar 2.4 was one of history’s biggest butt-kicking four-cylinders; why swap it for a motor that won’t rev, won’t boost, and sounds like it belongs in a Mitsubishi Lancer? It’s a shame, really. The SRT engineers have worked hard to get the maximum from what must surely be a difficult platform to improve, and our time in a Jeep Compass (which is a platform sister to the Caliber) shortly after the test makes the extent of the magic very clear. If our imaginary Internet zillionaire needed a mini-crossover, this would surely be the fastest and most competent of his available choices. The SRT-4 also impresses on the street, as we’ll discuss some time in a separate road test – but if the SRT team can accomplish this much with a crossover, what could they do with a proper small sedan as a starting point? Perhaps it would be a car to make us forget that sparkling old SRT-4 Neon ever existed.

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Hey everybody,

Thanks for reading the article. Obviously it's a pretty wacky comparison, but our rationale for doing it is pretty well-documented within the article itself.

A couple of brief clarifications regarding Douglas Wind's comments:

1) I wasn't "almost" thrown from the Mercedes during the open-door donuts, I WAS thrown from the Benz! I had this idea that we would do some fun donuts in an empty area. (Was it roped off? I guess I magically jumped a 4300-pound diesel Mercedes over the rope!) Luckily I still had a hand on the A-pillar so I could pull myself back into the moving car and knock off a couple more of said donuts. Naturally, I closed the door for those, because you don't have to tell me twice.

2) Bash the Neon? I race a Neon! You see, Douglas does what they call "time trial" in NASA. It's a lot of fun, but it isn't racing. Some day Doug will be ready to race for real, and then I'll be delighted to help him as a fellow Neon owner. Until then, I'll have to continue to think of him as a smack-talking wannabe.

3) For the record, my co-driver was the guy who wanted to sue Dale. I'm happy to report that I had the chance to chat with Dale at the Atlanta Pro Tour last month and any drama between us is long since settled. Why Doug ever got involved in this whole thing is beyond me. As previously noted, he's kind of a wannabe who has only seen actual checkered flags on television. If I have any issues with Dale, I'll talk to Dale directly, not to his internet leghumper.

Again, thanks to everybody for reading. We'll be discussing our Caliber comments with Chrysler personnel in the near future. I'm a big fan of Mopar products - not only did we love the SRT-10 when we drove it back in March, I spend a lot of my time every week working on a Neon. Here she is:



Doug, if you ever want to see what it's like to actually race, as opposed to sit on your ass and babble - I invite you to build your own Neon and race it. Thanks!



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1) WOW... at least you can admit how stupid you were and that you actually fell out of your own car! HELL YES it was roped off....however appearently when you only rope off 97% of the area surrounding a freshly paved lot, some nimrod will find that 3% and think of it as their personal entrance to an obviously reserved area just waiting for them to lay down some fresh donuts "tatoos".

2) Yes... I time trial, and if you care to join me out there I would be more than happy to show you how that is done. I'd be willing to bet that it would take more than your borrowed SRT-10 Viper to show me the way around a track. I never represent myself as a "racer" so you are not informing anyone of anything they don't already know.

3) Funny...I don't remember seeing your boyfriends name on any of the threats about suing Dale for the footage of your brilliant driving ability, they all came directly from you. "I am right next door to the biggest law firm in Canada and they will be all over you as soon as I say "Go". (Paraphased, but along the right line).

As far as your racing ability, by the looks of that picture, you are about to get smoked by the spec miatas. At least your inability to follow the racing line (it looks to be about 9 feet to the drivers right of your car, btw) should allow them plenty of room to move past without you slowing them down.

Thanks for stopping by Jack! Now go play with all you internet millionaire friends with their/your/your wife's uncle's Ferrari.

I almost forgot Jack....Tell us all about your SRT-4 you mentioned in the article! Or was that more internet fibbing?

"My confidence was based on my experiences as an owner of a Stage 3 Dodge SRT-4 Neon and my current situation as the owner and racer of a first-gen Neon ACR"

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