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Old 11-03-2007, 01:04 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Embrace the neon guys! When asked, i say its a neon. Thats it. When asked what i run, i say high 16's.


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Embrace the neon guys! When asked, i say its a neon. Thats it. When asked what i run, i say high 16's.


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I say the same thing, being able to downplay my car as 'just a neon' is great.

Also call it "a neon on crack"

But, as far as the 16 second neons... they cool in my mind... a 16 second neon @ the track took this shot of my car.... so I'm happy

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Old 11-05-2007, 02:11 PM   #123 (permalink)
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I could give too shits what you say. The idle is part of the whole package. I can start the car up and yes if you weren't expecting it it would make you jump. I've done it to people walking by in Walmart Parking lot. And I am not an Idiot I know what WOT is but idle is part of the package and based on my statement you started arguing. And in my opinion any 400hp car don't matter what it is isn't a poser you idiot. So i couldn't care less if you care about idle that's part of it and yours sucked. I assure you your car can't compare to my TA sitting still and I can assure you your 281 doesn't sound as good as mine. I don't care what you say but it's MY OPINION which your not going to change. I stated what the capabilities of my car as a point of reckoning as typical LT1's don't run like that.

I may not have the same opinion of everyone else that heard your car thats why it's called an opinion.

And no a 4.6 doesn't count in my book. Specially a stock long block I don't care what kind of exhaust it has or if it's running 15psi on a sc. And yeah if it's built with cams and such I am sure it would count but not a stock long block when I am talking about a built v8. Your 4.6 wasn't built it had exhaust and a bolt on supercharger. Anyone can do that. Not a built motor Which is what I was talking about.

And just cause your car may have been faster doesn't mean it sounds better.
Get over yourself and stop arguing a simple statement that most people appreciate a strong running and sounding V8. Most people do and I guess your one that doesn't good for you. Not trying to change your fucking opinion stop trying to change mine.

I feel sorry for you...Your ones of those people that believes everyone has to feel the same as you. Guess what the whole world isn't going to believe the same thing as you do and that your sc 4.6 sounded better than anything else on this planet. Not going to happen. Not changing my opinion or how I feel. Stop trying.


"but what good does that magic SOUND really do for you and your v8 when a big turbo 4 cylinder walks right past you?

It has nothing to do with the statement again bringing things into the conversation that have no meaning. I never compared 4cyl / 6 cyl / v8 in any form just that most people appreciate a strong running and sounding V8. Why do you call it magic. I call it part of the whole theme and point of having a car with a built v8. I never ever listened to the radio I was enjoying the sound of the car while I cruised.

Thats part of a true hot rod heritage loud and fast cars. I guess you have no heritage of enjoying built v8's. It goes deep in my family. I get shit for owning the srt. But hey it's a better daily driver.

My initial statement that most except this guy appreciate a strong running and sounding V8 stands.

Thats the point to argue. Nothing else. I don't care about you or your old car. I could care less how it sounded but it doesn't sound like a built V8 cause it wasn't a built v8 it was a bolt on v8.

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Who cares really. My opinion is that a built V8 sounds better than a exhaust sc 4.6 281 tiny ford motor. My opinion. You also said you couldn't hear your car at idle so how could it sound so badass if you can't hear it at idle. Mine rattles the windows at idle.

no i never said that, i said that people usually heard me at WOT, as in racing, not at an idle, sitting in a parking lot.


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And you can hear me coming from a mile away which is twice the distance of your 1/2 mile.

i used that as an example - highway was 1/2 mile from front door and people at home said they could hear my car easy when i was going up the ramp. yeah, i'm sure they could still hear me after i got on the highway, but i didn't yardstick the exact distance. and when i started the car people walking by would duck or jump, so how does that fit in to your window rattle?


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So what. Who cares. This has gotten way off topic because I said people appreciate the sound of a strong running and sounding V8.

and you seem to think mine would RUN stronger than yours, and people with built N/A v8's that i raced and beat seemed to think mine sounded better than their cars...so i guess their opinions aren't fitting in with yours about sc engines not counting.

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You said you weren't impressed by your car but then go on to tell me that your car counted

because you said it didn't count, even when i informed you that guys with all-motor cars said my car sounded sweet..in the sound department

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in the sound department and is so much better and so fast and you beat all these cars.

after you posted your own is so much better and so fast and you beat all these cars reply first.


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But you weren't impressed by it.

just to state that the "sound" wasn't a life-or-death deal for me like it seemed to be with you.


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If you can't hear the V8 idleing how can it count.

counts because you didn't even begin to comprehend what i wrote - you came off as someone that likes to park and idle to impress friends with that idle lope, while i said that i couldn't even begin to worry about how the idle sounded..while i was running 80mph at WOT.


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It doesn't based on my statement.

only because you failed to comprehend what i meant by saying WOT, instead of being a parked poser.


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Strong running and sounding which includes what it sounds like sitting still.

i wouldn't be surprised if my ohc sc'ed 4.6 making more hp at the wheels and the crank, with off-road X-pipe and straight-through "race bullet" catback was louder than yours, sitting still..or if i was WOT out in front. but what good does that magic SOUND really do for you and your v8 when a big turbo 4 cylinder walks right past you?

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Old 11-05-2007, 03:32 PM   #124 (permalink)
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I could give too shits what you say.

how many times are you going to say that? seems like you're the only one going through a tantrum here.


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The idle is part of the whole package. I can start the car up and yes if you weren't expecting it it would make you jump. I've done it to people walking by in Walmart Parking lot.

mine did the SAME thing, so of course you made an argument of it. but only after you failed to comprehend what i wrote and claimed my car couldn't be heard at idle.

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And I am not an Idiot I know what WOT is but idle is part of the package and based on my statement you started arguing. And in my opinion any 400hp car don't matter what it is isn't a poser you idiot. So i couldn't care less if you care about idle that's part of it and yours sucked.

you never heard it idle, and many diehard performance gm fans that DID hear it said it sounded awesome - but since you have an opinion based on the fact that you've never heard it, well that is the part that makes you an "idiot" here.


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I assure you your car can't compare to my TA sitting still and I can assure you your 281 doesn't sound as good as mine.

based on the fact that you've never heard it and the fact that the only example you used to compare it to was a N/A 4.6 that was making about 200hp less than mine?

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I don't care what you say but it's MY OPINION which your not going to change. I stated what the capabilities of my car as a point of reckoning as typical LT1's don't run like that.

i'm not trying to change your opinion, just wondering why you're coming off with so many contradictions and confused statements..like saying: supercharged sucks and doesn't matter, but then you say the sweetest motor you ever heard was a supercharged motor, or how you claimed a ls1 was a modular motor, etc..

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I may not have the same opinion of everyone else that heard your car thats why it's called an opinion.

no, it's called them having an opinion based on fact after they actually hear how a motor sounds, you have that special kind of opinion that comes from the you basing your opinion on the fact that you've never heard how my car sounded.


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And no a 4.6 doesn't count in my book. Specially a stock long block I don't care what kind of exhaust it has or if it's running 15psi on a sc.

and you also claimed the ls1 was a "modular" motor, and i've never heard a lt1 that sounded as sweet as an '03-'04 cobra or a full-exhaust and full-bolt-on sc'd 2v 4.6 stang. the best lt1 i ever heard was a centri sc'd firebird and it sounded sweet, but only made 428whp.

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And yeah if it's built with cams and such I am sure it would count but not a stock long block when I am talking about a built v8.

i've had built n/a gm v8's making over 400whp, on a teeny-bitty 283 cid , and i had a 396 cid cammed, headed and compressioned bigblock making over 500whp..and i actually got just as much praise and compliments on how my 4.6 mustang sounded. but, again, that's coming from people that actually heard how the cars sounded.


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Your 4.6 wasn't built it had exhaust and a bolt on supercharger.

so does that mean that you're way beyond being an uber ..since your srt-4 ISN'T a built motor and it just has a bolt on turbo?

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Anyone can do that. Not a built motor Which is what I was talking about.

which is what i was talking about when i said many guys with built n/a motors said my 4.6 sounded brutal and even better than theirs. but, again, they actually heard it run.

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And just cause your car may have been faster doesn't mean it sounds better.

doesn't mean it sounded worse, no matter how much you about it.

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Get over yourself and stop arguing a simple statement that most people appreciate a strong running and sounding V8.

do you hate your srt4?

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Most people do and I guess your one that doesn't good for you.

never said i didn't, just that it wasn't totally life and death end all be all important to me, like it seems to be for you.

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Not trying to change your fucking opinion stop trying to change mine.

Not trying to change your fucking opinion stop trying to change mine. hypocrite.

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I feel sorry for you...Your ones of those people that believes everyone has to feel the same as you.

hypocrite. word for word.

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Guess what the whole world isn't going to believe the same thing as you do and that your sc 4.6 sounded better than anything else on this planet. Not going to happen. Not changing my opinion or how I feel. Stop trying.

hypocrite. insert built N/A LT1 for 4.6


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"but what good does that magic SOUND really do for you and your v8 when a big turbo 4 cylinder walks right past you?"

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It has nothing to do with the statement again bringing things into the conversation that have no meaning. I never compared 4cyl / 6 cyl / v8 in any form just that most people appreciate a strong running and sounding V8. Why do you call it magic. I call it part of the whole theme and point of having a car with a built v8. I never ever listened to the radio I was enjoying the sound of the car while I cruised.

and i turned off my 1000 watt stereo and rolled the windows down so i could get the most enjoyment from the sound my 4.6 was making, so again, what was your point? apples to oranges? opinions vs opinions? you say potayto and i say potahto?

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Thats part of a true hot rod heritage loud and fast cars. I guess you have no heritage of enjoying built v8's.


again you base you opinion on all guess and no facts.

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It goes deep in my family. I get shit for owning the srt. But hey it's a better daily driver.

i thought i sensed a bit of bitterness there.

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My initial statement that most except this guy appreciate a strong running and sounding V8 stands.

again you failing to comprehend what i wrote and you overlooking the fact that another person on this thread thought 4.6's sound better than a "5.7" but i guessed you missed that.

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Thats the point to argue. Nothing else. I don't care about you or your old car.

wasn't my stang quite a bit newer than your gm?


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I could care less how it sounded but it doesn't sound like a built V8 cause it wasn't a built v8 it was a bolt on v8.

never saw someone get so defensive and thrown out of joint when they claimed to care so little. i know something about built n/a engines. and perhaps i know more about sc'd engines than you, who knows? but one thing that seems for certain is i'm not coming off as a forced-induction hater, that drives a f/i car...but you seem to act like a built n/a motor is the only thing that matters - guess you could throw your turbo in the trash and build a stroker, cammed and built srt-4. good luck!


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Quote: Originally Posted by dafaic
Who cares really. My opinion is that a built V8 sounds better than a exhaust sc 4.6 281 tiny ford motor. My opinion. You also said you couldn't hear your car at idle so how could it sound so badass if you can't hear it at idle. Mine rattles the windows at idle.

no i never said that, i said that people usually heard me at WOT, as in racing, not at an idle, sitting in a parking lot.


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And you can hear me coming from a mile away which is twice the distance of your 1/2 mile.

i used that as an example - highway was 1/2 mile from front door and people at home said they could hear my car easy when i was going up the ramp. yeah, i'm sure they could still hear me after i got on the highway, but i didn't yardstick the exact distance. and when i started the car people walking by would duck or jump, so how does that fit in to your window rattle?


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So what. Who cares. This has gotten way off topic because I said people appreciate the sound of a strong running and sounding V8.

and you seem to think mine would RUN stronger than yours, and people with built N/A v8's that i raced and beat seemed to think mine sounded better than their cars...so i guess their opinions aren't fitting in with yours about sc engines not counting.

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You said you weren't impressed by your car but then go on to tell me that your car counted

because you said it didn't count, even when i informed you that guys with all-motor cars said my car sounded sweet..in the sound department

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in the sound department and is so much better and so fast and you beat all these cars.

after you posted your own is so much better and so fast and you beat all these cars reply first.


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But you weren't impressed by it.

just to state that the "sound" wasn't a life-or-death deal for me like it seemed to be with you.


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If you can't hear the V8 idleing how can it count.

counts because you didn't even begin to comprehend what i wrote - you came off as someone that likes to park and idle to impress friends with that idle lope, while i said that i couldn't even begin to worry about how the idle sounded..while i was running 80mph at WOT.


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It doesn't based on my statement.

only because you failed to comprehend what i meant by saying WOT, instead of being a parked poser.


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Strong running and sounding which includes what it sounds like sitting still.

i wouldn't be surprised if my ohc sc'ed 4.6 making more hp at the wheels and the crank, with off-road X-pipe and straight-through "race bullet" catback was louder than yours, sitting still..or if i was WOT out in front. but what good does that magic SOUND really do for you and your v8 when a big turbo 4 cylinder walks right past you?

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This isn't aimed towards anybody here but no shit its a Neon, What did people think it was before that? A Viper marked down to 20k?

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The funny thing is when people make fun of this car. That is all they say lol. Its like they cant say anything else bad about it cause their is nothing imo, except it being a fwd but thats more personal preference at least to some people. I really enjoy driving this car. It gets hardly any respect unless people know about them, and its fast as hell for what it is.
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Haha V8 owners arguing with each other now on a 'just a neon' thread Fun stuff
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I.... Like many of you, have heard the slogans: "It's just a neon"... "Your cars a skittle"... "Your penis is smaller than mine." I have listened to the bias cries of ignorance when they cast us down as less than themselves with their words. I have seen the crimes of men who no longer serve the will of the turbo. I have seen the men who've endured their torment... Witnessed their nightmare. And I have felt the pain that all of you feel! But there is one thing that is different between all of you and me...

I believe it is time for a new day... I belive that WE... as SRT-4 owners... bound together as one and united in our goals in good faith have the power to change things. Our people shall be denied the right to resist the chains of V8 guys no longer. The actions of our oppresors will be suffered no more. I believe that action is warranted. Nay! I believe it is DEMANDED!!! We must combine our efforts, the energy that is our lives, and be willing to sacrifice whatever is necessary... we must make this an emotional issue and get the president involved like with Terry Schiavo ...

MARCH ON WASHINGTON!!!

GET THE CONGRESS TO PASS A RESOULTUION PROCLAIMING OUR CARS ARE NOT NEONS!!!! THEY HAVE DIFFERENT TRANSMISSIONS!!! DIFFERENT ENGINGES!!! DIFFERENT EVERYTHINGS!!!!!

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Haha V8 owners arguing with each other now on a 'just a neon' thread Fun stuff


yes i hope you'll forgive me for casually mentioning that not "everybody" and "most people" love that beasted up V8 "sound" and all i was trying to do was say that i can get past the past and enjoy the new "sound" a turbo 4 makes. didn't realize i'd open old wounds and get bombarded with "everybody loves" and "most people love" that mean built V8 sound comments, from a neon owner, here on a neon/srt thread or i never would have mentioned it. btw, i wonder where all the "most" and "everybody" are hiding at? probably in a V8 forum, instead of a neon/srt forum. still think a screaming turbo srt making over 400whp sounds pretty awesome, but i guess some still think that statement seems a bit odd..even if this is posted at SRTforums.
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I think a V8 sounds better, that's a gimme, however that's part of what I love about the SRT4. I like my car because there will always be an element of underdog mentality about it and hatred towards it from both the tuner crowd, who hates the 'out of the box 13 second car', and the V8 crowd who refuse to believe a 4 banger for 20,000 is able to put them in their rear view mirrors. I think my car sounds like shit and it is music to my ears
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I think a V8 sounds better, that's a gimme, however that's part of what I love about the SRT4. I like my car because there will always be an element of underdog mentality about it and hatred towards it from both the tuner crowd, who hates the 'out of the box 13 second car', and the V8 crowd who refuse to believe a 4 banger for 20,000 is able to put them in their rear view mirrors. I think my car sounds like shit and it is music to my ears

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I like the srt period. I like V8's period. The srt for the performance gets way better gas mileage. It's not a road scrapper. I like the srt.

And most people do prefer the sound of a beefed up V8 weither they own one or not and if they don't prefer it they can still appreciate it. You don't have to love a V8 or own one or want one to appreciate something.

I tried to make a simple statement in the beginning and you wanted to talk about how unimpressed you were with a 400 hp v8. Thats fine. Thats your opinion. My statement was based on sound and how it performed and so what if there are srt-4's out there that will smoke it, it can still be appreciated.

My 11sec ls1 buddy although faster appreciated my car. He didn't like it more than his car hell mine was slower but he still appreciated it's performance. He did prefer my sound over his.

I don't hate fi!

I never stated that.

This is my second tc auto and I had a sc 04 Impala SS.

There are large differences in each and each have their advantages.

I stated that there was no doubt that your car sounded good but a different kind of sound.

A stock 4.6 with exhaust has a different kind of sound than a cammed and built motor. Although the sc car may sound good it doesn't have the muscle sound of the later.

When i refered to your old car it was meant as your old car. Do you own it anymore? I didn't think you did so I said your old car. My father-in-law lives with me and the TA still sits in my driveway although I don't own it anymore. I can still drive it when I want.

I also stated the vette although sc was built with cams and heads so it had both.

I prefer the sound of a built v8 over a stock with exhaust v8. I like the sound of a cam loping car. Most people can walk up to a car thats sitting there and can appreciate the way the car sounds.

I said your car didn't count in the built v8 list didn't mean it didn't count as a whole or that it lacked appreciation.

Different sounds, different appreciations, still fast.

Hope that clears it up.

I'm a little more mellow today things have been tough the last week and I have been in a really shitty mood.

I would like to add that I looked at a 04 Cobra which had a cai, smaller pulley, header back exhaust. I prefer my lt1's sound over that cobra but it did sound badass still didn't have that built motor sound but sounded badass and was loud.

This could have been avoided.

Sorry guys for draggin this crap out on the srt-4 board.

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Um...I don't get it. We do drive neons. It's just a different trim.

You get offended because someone states a fact?

Like the new SRT-4 isn't a Caliber.....righhhhht.

I never took offense to this. To be honest, I don't think I ever claimed to own an SRT-4, it's always been and always will be a neon. When someone who doesn't know me and what I drive starts talking about cars and asks what I drive...."I got a neon" has always been my response. Can't say that anymore though since I got a minivan.

People act like it's a diss or something. Like they are so smart for knowing what kinda car it is. The best is when they say it after losing a race. Simply say, Um...you just lost to a neon, that's gotta suck.

You don't see Z06 owners getting mad when someone says it's a vette do you? You don't see Cobra owners getting mad when you call it a Mustang do you? Si owners when you call it a Civic? Spec-V owners when you call it a Sentra? I could go on and on....

I never have seen an EVO owner claim to own a Lancer though. Funny.

We drive neons....get over it. THAT IS A FACT.


Note: This isn't directed to anyone. I just read a few responses on the first couple pages and started typing.

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Wait.....when the fuck did I buy a Neon???
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Wait.....when the fuck did I buy a Neon???

I know right?? My owner's manual says "SRT-4," not "Neon." In fact, I don't see "Neon" anywhere in my owner's manual.
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