first thing to go out on our motors after the 500 and plus hp mark?

[turboblacksrt]

is it the piston rings, pistons, rods or oil pump?
what is a minimum upgrade requirement?, other then ems of course, to have an engine in the 550-580hp range with race gas for special occassions?.....

[turboblacksrt]

bump..

[atomic]

Big turbo + bone stock motor = time bomb (enjoy it while it lasts)
built motor- cams studs crank, etc, etc, etc + big turbo + ems, etc= hopefully nothing major for a while but you still are going to have to rebuild it again down the road.
To be honest these cars aren't especially fun at that horsepower. Except on highways, it's pretty useless. Granted it sounds great and shocks alot of others but I may have been happier with 280 rather than now. That is unless you are just taking it out on special occasions. I have to warm it up, check my fluids, etc, etc. Make no mistake there is a lot of work that goes into keeping a near 600hp car on the road without issues.

[Nosfurato]

Quote: Originally Posted by atomic

Big turbo + bone stock motor = time bomb (enjoy it while it lasts)
built motor- cams studs crank, etc, etc, etc + big turbo + ems, etc= hopefully nothing major for a while but you still are going to have to rebuild it again down the road.
To be honest these cars aren't especially fun at that horsepower. Except on highways, it's pretty useless. Granted it sounds great and shocks alot of others but I may have been happier with 280 rather than now. That is unless you are just taking it out on special occasions. I have to warm it up, check my fluids, etc, etc. Make no mistake there is a lot of work that goes into keeping a near 600hp car on the road without issues.

This man speaks the truth!!

As far as the first thing to go??.. well, usually its the front bumper.. possibly the roof.. glass,.. airbags.. sometimes the driver checks out as well. Seriously though.. I have seen a lot of these threads lately.. everybody wants to know.. "what does it take to go this fast..." Nobody cares "what does it take to do it safely...."

Trust me, the last thing you want is a motor puking a rod while doing over 100 MPH.. guess where that oil is gonna go?? Almost allwayse under the car.. and under the rear tires, of a front heavy.. front wheel drive car.

My advice is, work your way up. A lot of people haven't got a clue what its like to drive a 500+ hp car. Especially one that ticks in at under 3000 lbs!!

Just be careful man, for some "strange reason" I have a feeling that your "special occasion" Is a street race..

Not trying to preach, I just don't want to have to read another "pray for my buddy.. SRT accident" thread.. or, see it on the news.. ect.

If your serious about it,.. call up DCR,.. AGP.. ect. They can point you in the right direction.

Just, try to keep her shiny side up!

Will.

[DDogsrt461BLK 3.0]

I've never thrown a rod, but I bent the shit out of 1. stg3, HOM, 75+ spray = good times.

big shot on single nozzle not successful.

4 nozzle soon.

500+ is what I'm shooting for no pun intented, boost + 100-150 shot is doable.

[*srtmatt*]

weakest thinkgs... head gasket and head studs. suck on high boost. but other than that watch you knock on high hp do your tunning the right way. and have fun till you call dcr about a motor. lol

[Nosfurato]

Quote: Originally Posted by *srtmatt*

weakest thinkgs... head gasket and head studs. suck on high boost. but other than that watch you knock on high hp do your tunning the right way. and have fun till you call dcr about a motor. lol

You actually sound like a "Ford Guy" lol no offense, I am also at heart.

For those that dont know, production 5 liters , forced induction.. too much timing. (no knock sensors) ect. well .. "pop goes the weisel" Too few head fasteners per cylinder.. high cylinder pressure would actually cause the head to flex a bit.. Not to mention the production blocks Pretty much SUCK!! , and THEY also flex a bit under high load (production blocks 450+ your on borrowed time ) 5.0's anyway.. things have gotten much better over the years (Ford Camp)

But, as far as a head gasket being a week link on the SRT? I would think you would need to do something pretty stupid with these cars to pop a gasket. The computer does everything it can to keep knock at bay.. let alone, let it get severe enough to pop a gasket.

Will.

[amdguy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Nosfurato

You actually sound like a "Ford Guy" lol no offense, I am also at heart.

For those that dont know, production 5 liters , forced induction.. too much timing. (no knock sensors) ect. well .. "pop goes the weisel" Too few head fasteners per cylinder.. high cylinder pressure would actually cause the head to flex a bit.. Not to mention the production blocks Pretty much SUCK!! , and THEY also flex a bit under high load (production blocks 450+ your on borrowed time ) 5.0's anyway.. things have gotten much better over the years (Ford Camp)

But, as far as a head gasket being a week link on the SRT? I would think you would need to do something pretty stupid with these cars to pop a gasket. The computer does everything it can to keep knock at bay.. let alone, let it get severe enough to pop a gasket.

Will.

ringlands will probably go before the headgasket will ;-D

[chuck's_srt-4]

Still waiting to find out...

BTW, stock head bolts, and head gasket here.

[onthedwnlow]

the rods and oil pumps are the first things to go......

head gakets and bolts are good till 30 psi of boost.....they tend to stretch and blow after that

as what everyone else said.......work your way up......its better that way

[lyncoo]

there is really no need for anything more than 400+ on the street imo

[master_1011]

I think your clutch would be the first thing to give out....