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Old 05-16-2004, 08:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Apex~i SAFC (II) Discussion/Help Thread

I just figured since there are plenty of Apex~i SAFC owners out there and many are new to it, this thread might be useful for the SAFC Veteran users to help others.

help with:


  • Install
  • set up
  • SAFC to Vehicle connection
  • Tuning
  • and everything else having to do with the Apex~i SAFC(II)
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PAP's SAFC Install How-To

Heres how to wire it up:

The C1 (black connector) module is the 4th connector from top going to PCM (1st is blank).

The C2 (orange connector) module is the 3rd connector going to PCM.


Please try to solder all connections.

Your going to need a tach driver to get a good rpm signal. wiring of the tach adapter is below with pics by our man Exhaust Depot. the specific tach driver is the MSD 8913.


POWER -
Red wire (afc)--- pin 11 on module C1 (dark blue/red wire).


GROUND -
Brown wire & Black wire (afc)--- pin 18 on module C1 (black/Tan wire) the brown wire should be T'd closer to the PCM.


RPM
-
Green wire (afc)--- tach driver MSD Part #8913 (should be the gray wire on Tach Driver).


THROTTLE POSITION SIGNAL -
Gray wire (afc)--- pin 21 on module C2 (orange/dark blue wire) if you want to reference to TPS.


Best on a turbocharged vehicle if wired/Teed into the (dark green/red) wire of the MAP sensor on the srt4, this . Closer to the MAP Sensor side of the cut wire. Look at diagram below. You want to "tee" in just behind the white Map signal wire.


MAP SIGNAL -
yellow wire output signal (afc)--- pin 23 on module c2 leading to PCM (dark green/red wire). Solder in for best connection.


white wire input signal (afc)--- pin 23 on module c2 coming from motor (dark green/red wire). Solder in for best connection.

NOTE: Dark Green/red wire must be cut so you have 2 wires, one that goes to the PCM and the other that goes to the MAP sensor.
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I also recomend using the MAP signal as a reference in lieu of the throttle position sensor. So, the boost tells the AFC when to go into the high and low setting. Just be sure to refrence the signal before you modify it.

~PAP

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Diagram for MAP wire connections from SAFC


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Tach adapter wiring - by E.D.
MSD 8913 Tach Adapter/Driver

Make sure you install the tach adapter in the area shown in the pic and not at the PCM connector as you may experience signal loss.

Cut greenwire with orange stripe on the coil. This is the VCC for the coil. Attach the red with green stripe TOWARDS the COIL. Attach the solid red wire towards the POWER DISTRIBUTION.

The black is ground, I like to attach it to the battery cable. The grey is your tach signal. The grey wire will connect to the AFC/SAFCII green wire.

You can tie wrap the unit to the hoses and vacuum lines on the side of the battery tray.

If you dont have a soldering iron, then you should not be purchasing this item.

~Exhaust Depot


tach-adapter-part-8912-picture-089.jpg tach-adapter-part-8912-picture-090.jpg

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Settings once it's all installed in your Dodge SRT

Sensor Type

  • Pressure (selct pressure for MAP sensors)
  • Sensor Number: in 10 / out 10
Car Select
  • 4CyL
  • Arrow Points North East (When the throttle is completely closed, the throttle sensor voltage is 0 V to 1 V.

    When the throttle is completely opened, the throttle sensor voltage is 3 V to 5 V.)
TH Point
  • Dependant on wether you use TPS or MAP, 3 bar Sensor or 2.25 Sensor.
  • The lo/hi throttle settings are for when the lo/hi throttle maps come into play..

    IE...lo 10% means that anything under 10% throttle [or map reference in this case], the safc uses the LO map to alter fuel..

    HI 40% means that anything OVER 40%, the safc uses the HI map to alter fuel

    Anything inbetween the two maps [11%-39%] and the safc interpolates the two maps to figure out the correction needed...

    No fuel will be pulled at all until you actually go through on the lo/hi throttle maps after you have set your NE points, and adjust the percentages at the different rpm settings..... toyoguru

NE Point
  • Choose your rpm points you will work with, if you want to scale the injectors down at idle, add 800rpm to point 1 on LO. Use these wisely as you have 12 points in HI and LO.
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1. Hi-Thrtl ................Air correction factor setting (throttle opening, large)
2. Lo-Thrtl .............. Air correction factor setting (throttle opening, small)
3. TH-Point............. Throttle opening setting
4. Ne-Point............. Air correction engine RPM setting
5. Dec.-Air.............. Deceleration Air upper limit setting
6. Knk Set................Knocking signal correction
7. Data File ............ Data file control


1. Sensor Type....... Sensor type and sensor number setting
2. Car Select ...........Number-of-cylinders and throttle type setting
3. Sensor chk ..........Sensor check
4. Disp Scale.......... Display scale setting
5. Warning Set .......Warning output setting
6. Pass Lock............Password setting/change
7. VFD Bright ......... VFD brightness adjustment
8. Program Ver....... Program version check
9. Initialize.............. All data initialization



Sour Kraut Explains

1.SensorType should be set to pressure with the Sens.No's being 10IN 10OUT

2.Car Select should be set to 4 under cyl and the arrow pointing up in the direction of the knob(this is telling the safc that the voltage increases as the throttle is opened)

3.Sensor check does exactly what it says, It lets you see the voltage on the map and tps wires.

4.Display Scale sets the parameters for the playback screen(THIS IS UNNEEDED FOR IT TO RUN SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW, LATER READ UP AND FIGURE IT OUT!).

5.warning set lets you set warnings,DUH. Not needed to run.

6.Pass lock lets you lock the settings for your hi and low settings, your ne points, and the corrections for each ne point. Once it's locked, you can't change them until you unlock it again.

7.You should be able to figure this out.

8.Program Version, something like windows xp service pack2. It just tells you the software version in the controller.

9.Initialize resets all the settings back to default! DO NOT hit yes here, you will lose all your settings.


Setting menu explained

1.Hi-Thrtl This is were you remove fuel after setting your ne points for any percentage above what is set as high in TH-point settings. A negative number is removing fuel, a positive number is a problem.

2.Lo-Thrtl This is the same as high throttle except it effects any percentage below your low throttle setting in the Th-point settings.

** Any point between your high and low settings will be interpolated to supply the difference between the 2 for a given rpm.

3.Th-point Sets your high and low throttle percentages. Anything above the high percentage is effected by the hi thrtl map while anything below the lo percentage is effected by the lo thrtl map.

4.Ne-Point This is where you set your rpm points that you wish to alter your fuel.

5.Dec.-air is used for cars that use a maf, so you don't use it.

6.Knk set is how you set the sensitivity of the unit for your knock sensor, which is too sensitive to work anyway so you don't need to hook it up.

7.Data File is where you can change between the 2 diffrent maps that you can set up.

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