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smoger 
the xbox360 has done NOTHING since it became $280, and plenty of people were buying wii's for 350+. i don't think price is really a factor.. and i don't think you can fairly call "simple" or "fun" a novelty. these are just basic concepts.
Well the 360 doesn't have motion controls so there is no novelty for the average consumer that the Wii has.
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that's what happens when systems have the largest install base and lowest development costs. in either case, it's flawed/retarded logic to judge a system by the number of bad games on it. judge it by the number of GOOD games. i guarantee that you don't like the vast majority of songs on itunes, but THAT wouldn't stop you from buying an iPod would it? it only matters how many songs you LIKE are on it.
Well the system doesn't have that many great games on it. Most of them are from Nintendo that are the same tried and true through all their systems. Most third parties don't sell well and there are very few gems like No More Heroes from third parties. Wii sells, but Wii games don't sell.
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it's getting there. i wouldn't say it's "doing nice" yet. every single game that was supposed to be "the one" flopped, with the exception of mgs4.. it took over a year for them to match the basic capabilities of the xbox as far as messaging, and even at that, their solution is currently ruining people's consoles(well,.. not ruining people's consoles because they yanked it).
Don't talk about ruin people's consoles because the fall update for the 360 back in the day bricked a lot of systems and it was never pulled, let alone RROD. MGS4 and FFXIII are like the ones. Only Lair and Haze basically flopped. Uncharted and Ratchet received a lot of praise and sales. What is a flop in terms of sales because even the awesomeness that is Bioshock didn't sell over 2 million with PC combined.
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that WOULD have been the case, but with the extremely shaky start of the ps3 they would have been fine launching at the same time. they jumped in front by a year, and STILL had features that sony missed and is still missing to this day. FACT.
360 sold because there was no other choice for next gen gaming. Even with its shaky start PS3 has outsold the 360 worldwide since its launch. IF it launched at the same time PS3 would have an higher install based. It would have been ok but it would have been in third.
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im really not sure why the 360 has stagnated so badly.. but im convinced that a lot of ps3's are still moving based on movies as opposed to games.. i just dont understand why anyone other than a mgs nut(or someone who's not into games at all and is just buying based on name) would choose the ps3 today based on the games available.
Well considering that you can fine most of the biggest games on both systems but you need a PS3 to play MGS4, Uncharted, Ratchet, etc. You don't need a 360 to play Gears, Bioshock, Mass Effect, etc. people are choosing PS3 over 360 and not for movies since games are selling well on PS3 just as 360 for instance Devil May Cry 4.
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case in point: sony is still showing commercials featuring 2 out of 3 games that are not on shelves yet. FACT.
Have you seen the commercial? I don't think you have. It shows MGS4, Gran Turismo 5 Prolouge and Little Big Planet. I know if I walk in the store I can buy MGS4 and GT5:P right now. So your FACT is just a lie. It even says coming soon under Little Big Planet in the beginning.
PSN does what I need it to do. Play online without dropping, chat,etc all for free. I get no lag, never have. If you guys don't like the PS3 thats cool but its outselling the 360 worldwide and 360's 10 million unit headstart is now less than 5 million units not including June's MGS4 numbers. You may get why people want a PS3 but people are choosing it more than the 360 and for games as well.
