i think i nailed it
i tried again tonignt car on car off bla bla bla all the light of the ot-1 were flashing but was not able to connect and different error code tonight
but but my mouse was still acting very funny...so i remembered reading somewere and when installing my usb seeing something trackball mouse detected
so i went into manage and look into the mouse and went to a ballpoint mouse and set it to deactivate
AND BINGO everything work's fine plug unplug car running or not work all the time
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Not stock anymore 
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