Quote: Originally Posted by Phoenyx
Do you know what the difference is between the 9 and the 8? What do you think is the FASTEST EVO recorded? The 9 has an advantage because of Mivec. Obviously the 8 doesn't have Mivec so it's down by 30whp. 30whp which can be easily reattained doesn't make a car have top end power over another. They are both the same exact car dude.
As you mod both to the limit - they become equal. Mivec is no good after a certain amount of power requiring a standalone...
Quote: Originally Posted by MnM'SRT4
I agree that Mivec helps so much to a certain point but it makes a huge difference on stock cars, on the highway. Point in case races modded evo 8 while being stock put cars on it, races anthony lost by 1 1/2 - 2 cars.
Quote: Originally Posted by MnM'SRT4
and it depends on the mods to because otherwise they still can't do rolls, without cams or a race tune or meth.
Quote: Originally Posted by Phoenyx
Well course... but neither can the 9 without Mivec. That's not a valid point.
Quote: Originally Posted by MnM'SRT4
It is because I was stating the difference between the 9 and 8, and how 9's are better out the box, and still ahead of "modded" 8's pending on mods, but I see what you mean.
Quote: Originally Posted by Phoenyx
I mean, how many EVOs with a good driver have you raced? You obviously could still beat Anthony when he was stock. Yet you say 9s have good top end power?
Quote: Originally Posted by MnM'SRT
Yeah I could beat anthony and I would have beat any Evo 9 that was stock because I WASN'T stock anymore. Untill I got modded I was losing by 1 1/2 - 2 cars. Yet I still NEVER lost to an 8, roll or dig (fluke) lol.
Yea, I will agree that almost every EVO 8 I have come across has been weak. A guy at the track had cams, and all the bolt-ons - and I still got him by cars down the track. He was pissed! It may not be the power of the car - it could very well be the weak-ass drivers you raced.
Quote: Originally Posted by MnM'SRT4
Although with your race tune and meth I think you will beat me.
Quote: Originally Posted by Phoenyx
Of course.. I don't stay with the same mods for very long..You'd need a bigger turbo at this point - and I'm still on stock cams, intercooler, intake and turbo..
Quote: Originally Posted by MnM'SRT4
There I agree, I do have a S3 in my trunk but I don't know if I am keeping it, it would be a nice race.
Indeed.
Quote: Originally Posted by Phoenyx
Ok. See if you can find another 8 with just TBE and headers do that time at Cali Speedway. Better yet, find an SRT4 with TBE and headers do that..
Quote: Originally Posted by MnM'SRT4
SRT-4 with 50$ in mods running 13.6 and another running 13.4 with maybe 100$ dollars in mods. So I don't see it being that big of a deal.
It's not that easy man. I should've been in the 12s when I ran down at Speedway. To me, it's not as trivial to
get those times as it is to
say what your car can do. When Cobras and Supras that are hyped to the hilt coast up to the line, you say to yourself "Oh man, that shit is going to take off and get an excellent time..." - then all of a sudden the numbers pop up and you
only a 13.5???
Quote: Originally Posted by MnM'SRT4
Bottom line, I won't shit on your parade, you have a fast 8, and and fast car in general and more so compared to mine. Not trying to fight, so keep it a friendly debate.
It's all good bro!
