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Quote: Originally Posted by XXxx_Totmacher_xxXX

Here ya go bud

Quote: Originally Posted by XXxx_Totmacher_xxXX

11) SAFC II ? Next on the list of upgrades would be a SAFC II. Map clamps are nice, but if your going to do it, you may as well do it right. SAFC?s can be purchased for 200 new on ebay and sometimes a lot lower used. Add in the tach driver for 40-60 and that?s all you need. Why do I say a SAFC II now? Well at this point a SAFC II is going to help you out in a few ways. Especially for those 05 guys. Obviously you can pull out fuel to lean the car out, but in the process, properly tuning it will allow you to run more boost. And a noticeable amount at that. With my stock car with everything done up to this point (#1-12) plus a LFMIC My Zeitrinex wideband and my electronic boost gauge both show about 15.8-16.2 PSI on 4th gear pulls. My Tech Gauge MAP gauge only shows 13.6, which is the max boost the stock stage 0 ECU will allow 13.6 in 4th, 12.9 in 3rd). All with 32-35 degrees timing advance at redline (a few runs at the track showed .5-1.0 degrees timing pulled due to knock). That small 2-3psi may not seam like a lot, but when you consider the ECU is pretty much allowing that extra PSI without detuning the car anywhere else it?s actually a substantial increase. There is a really good sticky in the how to section and also in the engine management section concerning the install of a SAFC II. Points of note for the install are DEFENETLY solder and shrink wrap every connection. Also pay close attention to where you tap wires in as some need to be taped on the same wire as another wire, but the placement is important. Also it?s real important to tap the SAFCs TPS wire into the MAP voltage wire, NOT into the Cars TPS wire. This is tuning by load. This is the proper way to do it for a boosted car. Read up on the Sticky as for why. I deleted the tuning info I had because if you don?t do it right, you can fuck up your car. So why a SAFC now? You now have room to tune, so go ahead and make use of that free power, Your going to need one to progress any further, so get it now and get used to using it and start making power with it now!

heheh yeah I read that dude.... just wasn't sure how it applied to STOCK boost since you specified it will help out by allowing you to run higher boost. Like if it would be worth doing and would make any extra power assuming boost stayed the same. I have no intentions of trying any other aftermarket boost control... I did not like the driveability with WGA or MBC. But yeah I read your PM as well so it definately sounds like the SAFC is worth it even on stock boost, it should make a decent power and torque increase for the price (more than S1 did for less than S1 cost) w/o killing regular driveability.

So SAFC is definately on my to-do list now

EDIT: maybe I misunderstood... if I install an SAFC, but still have the stock WGA hooked up to PCM control... and I tune the SAFC, will this result in the car running a higher amount of boost? Or you would still need some WGA or whatever to raise the boost. Sounds to me like you're saying just adjusting the SAFC resulted in running more boost on stock WGA control.