Go Back   SRT Forums - SRT4, SRT6, SRT8, SRT10 & Dodge Forum
Register Home Forum Photo Gallery Active Topics (D) Chat VBay [0] Mark Forums Read

       
SRTForums.com is the premier Dodge Neon SRT-4 on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads. Please Register - It's Free!


View Single Post
Old 06-16-2005, 11:36 AM   #44 (permalink)
omniphil
SRTforums Member
 
omniphil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Member Number: 538
Location: NH
Trader Rating: (6)
Posts: 1,653
Default

Quote: Originally Posted by Stealth RT
Wow that's a lot to read.
Omniphil, being unable to look outside my own box at times I aproach all fluid flow and pressure problems from a hydraulic guy point of view. The goal with your system being to hit the backside of a orfice with full pump capability instantly... If I read that right. 'you are using a pressure switch and not a progressive controler.'
Anywho here's my 2 cents worth...
1 cent... A check valve is not a bad idea, but a solinoid would be better. You are using fluid power to open a valve, and it is deducting from the amount of force that is seen on the backside of your orfice (nozzle). It does take measurable time to open that valve. granted is can be mesured in millaseconds only.

1.5 cents... there is resistance in hose. 4 feet of 1/4 hose will build more pressure at 5 gallons a minute than say 4 feet of 3/8 hose. But I don't think that this is your problem.
What the heck... I'll type it out in case someone wants to read...
The speed of Fluid flowing through a pipe is mesured in feet persecond. This is the velocity.
What comes out the other end is the volume of fluid. As it moves though the pipe this is the Flow Rate and is mesured generally in gallons perminute.
A large tube say will flow 5 GPM at a Velocity of 10 feet persecond. Where as a tube of same leangth one half the diameter will flow 5 GPM at 20 feet persecond.
Oh Yeah. And the measure of work being done or resistance in a system is mesured in PSI

2 cents... Most folk forget about the suction side of a pump, be it oil, water, liquified gasses... etc. There should be no vacum in the suction side. I think it was dvldoc who mentioned some place about the in-side hose from the trunk mount tank of a car being a larger ID. Vacum (anything less that atmostphiric pressure) can cause problems inside your pump where cavities of gas form and collaps inside the liquid. (ever see milky or foamy oily in a engine with a part clogged pick-up screen) This is called cavitation.

I placed my nozzle on the cold side pipe after the intercooler. As it was recommended to me by the WI guys to place it as close to the throttle plate as posable... But that's outside my box.

Cheers
John


Yup, that is what I have found, the check valve seem to be slower for the reasons you mentioned. I think I'm going back to the solenoid, and placing it down near the injector, that should remove alot of my lag from the system.

If the turbo in the srt were more normal sized and had some lag everything would work great..

And Nivo, Im suprised you guys haven't done water injection yet, Its probably the single best thing you can do to a modified turbo car to keep egt temps down, and you dont have to dump in all that extra fuel. I even have and LED in the dash to tell me when the water is out, very handy.
__________________
---This is my kung fu, and it is strong---
---The surgeon general never said anything about smoking the competition---
01' Neon ACR - Turbo (2650lbs - 242whp/226tq) R.I.P. -->http://home.comcast.net/~omniphil/acr/<--
04' SRT-4 Lightweight (2680lbs - 291whp/338tq) -->http://home.comcast.net/~omniphil/acr4/<--
08' Yamaha R6S
omniphil is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Google Links

» Wheel & Tire Center

Sponsors

Sponsors

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0 RC2

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:31 PM.

(C) SRTforums.com
  • AutoForums.com
  • Truck
  • European
  • Import
  • Domestic
  • Manufacturer

AutoForums.com is the premier network of enthusiast-owned enthusiast-operated automotive communities.
We operate more than 100 automotive forums where our users consult peers for shopping information and advice, and share experiences and opinions as a community.

Visit AutoForums.com today.

For advertising information, please visit our AutoForums.com website and Contact Us, or send an email message to sales@autoforums.com.

Page generated in 0.12569 seconds with 10 queries